Treerooster wrote:I don't understand how a car door slaming or a real crow gives you "more stealth" than you making a crow call or whatever noise you use, besides turkey calls, to get a gobbler to respond. I mean, whats the differenc if a crow sounds off 100 yards east of the gobbler, or you sound off 100 yards west of the gobbler. Do you think the gobbler hears your crow call and thinks that you are a hunter?
Also how can you tell a gobblers mood better when he responds to a noise the neighbors make than one you make?
Let me address the stealth thing first. My feeling is that any time I sound off with a locator call, the gobbler that answers (as well as the ones that don't) know something's up. The call may or may not be perfect, but somehow that gobbler knows something is out of the ordinary. Being a suspicious bird by nature, he's alerted. Now that alert may amount to nothing in the end, but I believe it can affect the outcome of the hunt. That's an opinion, and I'm willing to listen to differences.
Then you have the gobblers that don't gobble when I use a locator call. I may have a gobbler at 200 yards sound off. What about the gobbler at 80? Is he not answering, because he is not interested? Or is it that he is suspicious of the loud call coming from somewhere it should not? Again, I don't know. That's why I brought up this topic.
Now you have the gobbler that responds to the car door slamming over on the next ridge. In that case, I can pretty well conclude that he's hot. If I have my choice of gobblers, that one sounds like he is on a hair trigger. On the other hand, if I come out the door and start owling, I may or may not be able to figure out which bird is hotter than the others.
Now comes the most subtle question of all: do gobblers discern a difference between a natural source and a human doing a locator call? Again, I cannot say for sure. However, what I do know is most locator calling is done without context. If you're out there long enough, you know there is a rhythm to the sounds in the morning. There is a flow. I try to figure out that flow and work with it. The crow that sounds off is already part of that flow. When I sound off, I can be subtly off from the flow and it will probably sound that way to the gobbler. I do not know whether that means anything to the gobbler, but I like to err on the safe side.
I've got to run for now.