Ethics Check: The Mystery Caller

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Ethics Check: The Mystery Caller

Postby Ben Sobieck » February 27th, 2009, 5:17 am

The Mystery Caller

In the pre-dawn darkness, you sneak toward an immense ridgetop white oak.
From that spot the previous evening, you tucked a gobbler to bed. Being
clever and techno-proficient, you marked the white oak on your global
positioning system unit as your set-up tree for the next morning and then
slipped out of the woods. Now you're back and, sure enough, the first owl
hoot of the morning assures you the gobbler is on the same limb and feeling
vocal.

You wait for shooting light, and then fire the bird up with two soft tree
yelps. At flydown, you mimic a hen pitching from her roost. The gobbler
responds lustily, so you go silent, not wanting to hang him on the limb or
goad him into a gobbling fit that would attract a hen or another hunter.
However, your bird is having none of it. He gobbles at everything and
nothing, his booming voice becoming more urgent by the minute. Finally, you
hear him pitch and land.

Just as you put your favorite peg to your trusty slate, you hear it; a
series of croaky "yelps" that sound so bad they have to be from another
hunter. Worse, the sounds emanate from between you and the tom. You're on
public land, so there's nothing you could say to a trespasser, and because
you've called so sparingly, it's possible this intruder doesn't realize he's
moved in on you.

Do you:

A) Stick it out and call more aggressively? Perhaps the hunter will realize
his mistake and shut up, giving you a chance to kill the bird.

B) Reposition to where you think you'll have a better chance to kill the
bird than your competition? It's an aggressive move that might bump the
turkey, but at this point, who cares?

C) Walk away and find another bird? Further attempts at the turkey at that
setup are bad judgement and might put you or the other hunter in danger.

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RE: Ethics Check: The Mystery Caller

Postby tracebusta32 » February 27th, 2009, 5:37 am

C) Walk away and find another bird
 
 
It's not worth getting shot over, I would then go home and call Stevepa and tell him it's not preseason no more. [:)]
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RE: Ethics Check: The Mystery Caller

Postby wisturkeyhunter » February 27th, 2009, 5:52 am

B or C depending on a few thing. More likely C though.
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RE: Ethics Check: The Mystery Caller

Postby Ozarks Hillbilly » February 27th, 2009, 6:17 am

C. Walk away and find another bird.
 
I have had this happen before in the past and walked away. The one I hate and has happened to me twice is the hunter that is between you and a bird and lets you do the calling for them and they never make a peep. The next thing you know you hear BOOM scares the crap out me. I never confronted or congratulated either hunter in those instances I just got up and left out the way I had came. It was public land they had as much right to that bird as I did. As far as I knew they may have beaten me to the bird although I was unaware of there presence or of how they got into there location.
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RE: Ethics Check: The Mystery Caller

Postby NYSuperSportsman » February 27th, 2009, 6:50 am

I would leave. no turkey is worth risking a hunting accident. If I ever suspect another hunter in the woods while turkey hunting I am gone.

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RE: Ethics Check: The Mystery Caller

Postby silvestris » February 27th, 2009, 7:01 am

Since the other man with a gun is between you and the gobbler, your chances of killing that gobbler on that morning are slim at best plus the safety factor.  Reluctantly, C.  I would be very careful in leaving if the other caller is within pellet range.  Many would say that you should say something to alert him that you are a man.  He probably wouldn't appreciate that and might shoot you.
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RE: Ethics Check: The Mystery Caller

Postby Snedley » February 27th, 2009, 8:19 am

ORIGINAL: TurkeyComander

ORIGINAL: Ben Sobieck

The Mystery Caller

Just as you put your favorite peg to your trusty slate, you hear it; a
series of croaky "yelps" that sound so bad they have to be from another
hunter.


The "croaky yelps" might just be a turkey....

(D) I'd hold my ground and just watch and listen.



This happened to me once.
 
 I had heard several birds gobbling one morning and because of the terrain and tons of blowndown beetle pines I couldn't get to any of the closest birds. So I went in the direction of where one had been gobbling but had gone quiet. I walked along the side of a ridge until I got to the point and stood and listened. I could barely hear drumming but from where I was I couldn't see the bottom so I sat down. I sat up against a pine tree and there was a blowndown tree right in front of me that I leaned my gun on. I yelped a few times and the bird gobbled so I thought I was in good shape. Then I hear yelping coming from the next point over that was closer to the gobbler and sounded like they were just above him on the point. So I quietly cussed to myself and was preparing to get up and leave when the yelping starts up again and this time it sounds like it's moving down the point toward the gobbler. My first thought was that it was some idiot trying to stalk the bird while calling the whole time. But then I realized it was a hen cause the tom gobbled on top of the yelping and they sounded like they were together. The hen was yelping frantically and was soon cutting and coming up the hill straight to me. Every time she'd cutt I'd cutt and that just seemed to piss her off even more. Then she hopped up on a blowndown pine about 20 yards away and she was letting me have it. Then I saw the gobbler. He was mirroring her coming up the hill but was about 20 yards off to the side...and my gun was still leaning on the tree cause I was having so much fun pissing off the hen. He walked behind a big oak tree and was only about 15 yards away from me drumming away. When he turned and went back behind the tree I reached up grabbed my gun and shouldered it. The hen saw me and hopped off the log and went away putting. When the tom came from behind the tree he was intently looking in the hen's direction and he never knew what hit him. So since then I wait and see what happens if I ever hear yelping in the woods.
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RE: Ethics Check: The Mystery Caller

Postby pabeard buster » February 27th, 2009, 9:07 am

id try to hang tight too, just because im not sure its a hunter. ive herd some bad calling from real hens. but if i saw the hunter, id go with c and leave a very pissed of person
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RE: Ethics Check: The Mystery Caller

Postby greyghost » February 27th, 2009, 9:17 am

If not sure it is another hunter hang tight and see. If it is another hunter 'C'.

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RE: Ethics Check: The Mystery Caller

Postby Cut N Run » February 27th, 2009, 9:23 am

I'd be forced to hang out & see what happens. Hens are known to sound un-turkey-like at times and that is probably why you don't need to be a great caller to be a successful turkey hunter.
 
I had a hen across an opening from me that I was sure had to be another hunter tresspassing, though I couldn't understand why I hadn't heard a shot yet because the Gobbler was in that same area carrying on loudly.  About that time, a hen crossed to my left and a gobbler took his last walk into that opening.
 
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