I just started using the computer , and am very slow at picking up the trade . the short time I have been checking out this site has been really interesting.seems to be people of all ages .concerning fall gobblers , I recall a few years back , while squirrel hunting , I stood perfectly still for about 30 minutes . suddenly the woods came alive with greys .you could say that they had me surrounded . I stood in one spot and dropped 3 in about 5 minutes .I waited awhile but the rest had taken cover , so I started moving about slowly to pick up my prize . it was very dry and noisy . well this gobbler evidently heard my movement and began to cluck loudly . he was on the opposite side of the ridge but could be heard clearly . finally he came strolling over the top where I could see him . just before he came into sight I laid down flat on the ground . he stopped and looked around for just a moment and then proceeded on down the ridge clucking loudly about every ten yards . WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THIS? well this is just a piece of what I think . years ago when I first heard of incorporating the four stroke scratch into the calling sequence I thought this was the greatest thing since breech loading firearms . WHAT ONE THING DO TURKEYS DO EVERY DAY ? MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE THEY SCRATCH! a god friend of mine has a cabin down in his woods . two years in a row , just prior to spring season he went down to rake the cabin yard . two years in a row he had a gang of gobblers start gobbling like crazy . three seasons back I was starting my youngest son who was 28 . opening morning after the birds hit the ground , I scratched the ground to pull those two longbeards in for a shot . I did it alot because they could not see me behind that huge oak . my son sat on the side of the tree and he could see their every movement and see them gobble. I could not see the birds but I could see the effect they were having on my son as he sat there shaking all over.there are times when one can not call too much or too loud , BUT , I am still learning and tend to believe LESS IS MORE when it comes to turkey talk , but I doubt that one could scratch too much . but you do need to be set up properly or they will SEEyou doing the scratching . ''OLD SCHOOL TURKEY TACTICS''