I didn't respond earlier because I can only provide second hand information. My son has a Stoeger 12 ga in the over/under plattform. He initially raved about it but recently started complaining that that point of aim must have shifted because he hasn't been knocking down the number of crows that he has in the past. He actually switched to my Benelli on the last couple outings and also took the Benelli spring goose hunting. To me it seemed like a fair value for the money but I like a light gun to carry so you'll normally see me with a 20ga or .410. He also doesn't clean his shotguns very often but is better with his rifles.