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This is closely related to the 70 yards? 80 yards? thread in a lot of ways. I don't see as much of a saftey issue with such shots as I do a responsibilty to the game we hunt.
Here is a quote from Gobblerman from that thread which I agree with-
> the chances of an animal being wounded and then escaping, without a doubt, increase as the distance between the hunter and the animal increases. This holds true pretty much regardless of the type of game being hunted. <
As for the shot itself, "more dangerous" must be first intepreted that it applies to humans instead of game. A shooter is responsible for positively identifying his target and being sure of his backdrop at any range, be it 40 yards or 80 yards, so there is nothing to argue there.
Where the argument usually does insue, is that this is all relative to where you hunt or take such a shot. In an area where you are reasonably sure you are the only one there, or the only one that should be there, an 80 yard shot is not inherantly more dangerous to humans. I say "the only one" because this applies to all humans, not just hunters... mushroom seekers, hikers and bird watchers can all be part of the equation. [color="#990000"]In a public area with much greater opportunity for human contact of all sorts, a longer shot is always going to be "more dangerous," it's more difficult to be sure of your backdrop and the shot angle is going to be higher[/color].
To recap this messay (mini-essay), there is too much relativity involved to provide a definite conclusion. "More dangerous" is a relative generalization, and it is directly relative and subjective to the area or region where the principle is being applied.
I'm not sure why any of this would be baffling to anyone, it's all physics...but as with anything else, logic must be employed during the application.
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> With regard to your blanket statement that between two shots, the longer will always be more dangerous (such as in public areas); I don't think that deserves a blanket pronouncement. <
You've shown a remarkable ability to take things out of context and twist words around as usual.
I did not make a blanket statement "that between two shots, the longer will always be more dangerous". In fact I went out of my way to explain that is not always the case and it is all relative to to where this situation occurs.
I did say in a public area,... not "such as". A longer shot, requiring a higher angle will always travel a farther distance. Fact. [color="#990000"]Taking this shot in a public area, where there is a difinitively greater chance of humans being downrange is always going to be "more dangerous" (your words), than taking a much shorter shot on private ground. Fact.[/color]
This topic is only remotely connected to the sensible turkey hunter. It's all conjecture and the onus for proving an 80 yard shot is "dangerous" should not be on those who don't take them. If anybody needs proof (I don't, the percentages are enough for me), the burden of proving it's safe should fall on those willing to take such a shot.
as i've told you in the past..dood,your threats don't scare me...heres some more talk on your turkey hunting ethics:
Whats your thoughts on shooting long distances?...Is it necessary?
I'm going to kill one at 70 yards this year just for you.
anytime dood...just give me a call
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