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Would it be ok/effective

Postby 1Morgan » June 28th, 2009, 6:03 am

to shoot buck shot through an 835 ultimag w/22"bbl? I've never deer hunted and don't have a rifle...I'm trying to be economical before i spend a lot of money and not like deer hunting. I did the same for turkey season this year...borrowed a lot of stuff to see if i would like it...now i own the gun, a vest, a thermacell, 50 calls, snake boots, i can go on and on hehe. Deer season opens Aug 15th here and just trying to get ready.
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RE: Would it be ok/effective

Postby CB on the run » June 28th, 2009, 9:10 am

Don't use a turkey choke, try a straight modified.  You'll be limited to about 40 yards max.  I opt for borrowing a rifle if possible.  A .243 or bigger with the right bullets and a little range time and you'll be all set.  Good luck.
 
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RE: Would it be ok/effective

Postby allaboutshooting » June 28th, 2009, 10:04 am

Hey Dan,

What size buckshot would you shoot? Would you be shooting lead or a tungsten-based product? I've never hunted deer with any type of buckshot, only rifles both fixed cartridge and muzzle loaders and shotguns with slugs. A lot of varmint hunters are using turkey chokes with lead buckshot with great success and many are also shooting the "Dead Coyote" through those same chokes, even though it seems pretty tight to me for such large "hard" shot.

Last year I shot some 2.75" 00 Buck that was issued to me over 25 years ago, through a pretty tight turkey choke, just to see how it would pattern. I was very surprised to see that it consistently put 8 of 9 pellets in 10" at 40 yards.

We only shot those rounds through riot guns with cylinder bore barrels and at very short ranges back then. It was devastating at those ranges but we'd never have thought about a choke any tighter or that the pattern would hold together at 40 yards.

There are probably many folks on here with experience in using buckshot for deer that can be of help to you. Just thought I'd share my experience with the 00.

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RE: Would it be ok/effective

Postby 1Morgan » June 28th, 2009, 2:01 pm

Not really sure what to shoot...guess that's really my next question. I don't want to damage the gun, i figured i would have to get a different choke. I'm 39 and have never hunted before this past turkey season, i have a good mentor that is showing me the ropes but i get such a wide range of advise from so many different types of hunters and hunting styles here. We should all thank Al Gore every time we visit here.......
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RE: Would it be ok/effective

Postby shaman » June 29th, 2009, 2:23 am

I have a "Dead Coyote"  choke from Carlson's.  It's not meant as a turkey choke, but it does a great job in that role.  It's supposed to be an excellent buckshot choke-- that's its primary role.  I suppose you can work it backward and try a turkey choke as a buckshot choke.  I just don't know.

What we use up here in Ohio is slug.  I have an  Improved Cylinder choked  deer barrel on my 1100 that keeps them touching or nearabouts at fifty yards.  You might want to try that.  If you work at it, you might end up with a 80-100 yard weapon-- certain if you try a rifled choke tube.  Just be ready to try several types of ammo.  Start cheap with something like Remington Sluggers and work up.

I know it's just local provincialism, but I have never heard good things about buckshot.  It's not legal here in Ohio or Kentucky, so of course it gets a bad rap.  All I'm saying is weigh your options. Remember that this is not turkey hunting.  You need to penetrate ribs, hide and quite a bit of thickness of deer to be effective. Slug at close range is absolutely devastating. 
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RE: Would it be ok/effective

Postby 1Morgan » June 29th, 2009, 2:32 pm

Maybe I'll just buy a slug barrel and be done with it...
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RE: Would it be ok/effective

Postby mark hay » June 29th, 2009, 2:44 pm

Heres a thought , just to consider . For the price of a new barrel , one can pick up a used singleshot of desirable guage and scope it up , or install irons . One of the H&R TOPPERS makes a fine deer gun .
 
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RE: Would it be ok/effective

Postby matchbook454 » June 29th, 2009, 3:05 pm

I like Shamans advice.  Put an Imp. Cyl. tube in and shoot Remington Sluggers.  I did exactly that my first year deer hunting here in IL..  I had rifle hunted in N. WI prior to that but here in IL we're only allowed to shoot slugs.  I couldn't afford a rifled slug barrel at the time so I just shot the Remington Sluggers through a bird barrel with double beads.  I took a really nice 8 pt. buck my first morning 5 min. after shooting time at 30 yards!  Could I have taken a shot at 100 yards?  No.  I shot about 10 - 15 rounds from 20 out to about 75 yards and truely felt that 60 was my max range.  I just set up where I knew I could get a shot within 40 yards (hopefully) and it worked out.  The following year I bought a rifled slug barrel and shot it out to 125 yards comfortably.  That season I took an even bigger 11 pt. buck and a doe within 10 sec. of each other.  They were at 25 and 40 yards!  So much for needing to shoot out to 125 yards!

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RE: Would it be ok/effective

Postby mark hay » June 29th, 2009, 10:36 pm

My concern is about the 835 . Are ALL 835's backbored?. My sons 835 has a 12ga chamber , 10 ga. bore , and screw in chokes . I seriously doubt accuracy can be obtained . The lead slug being capable of drifting around inside the barrel will for sure lead up the barrel rapidly and reduce the size and change the shape of the slug . And even if it has a rifled choke tube installed , if the slug doesn't enter the choke tube straight , IT AIN'T GONNA SHOOT STRAIGHT.
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RE: Would it be ok/effective

Postby 1Morgan » June 30th, 2009, 2:08 pm

Yea that's why i would have to get a new bbl for the 835 it has a 10ga bore
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