Thanks for the replies...thought I forgot my deodorant/mouth wash

I have to confess I cheated on the learning curve...many years ago I bought several bronze turkeys and raised them....when they were old enough to breed I listened....and would practice out side their building until I got them to answer...then we ate the hens..but kept the Toms to practice getting responses...I did this for months and it must have drove them crazy ...for they committed turkeycide

lol
They shared a building with our shepherds...and the rafters were open but we had also housed chickens there once ,so 1in. chicken wire was up...well I went to feed the dogs and they stood looking up into the rafters...paying me no mind

...Then I looked in the turkey pen and we were missing 3 Toms!!...they'd flown to the rafters and pulled back the chicken wire enough to get through....then dropped into the dogs pen
So they either...were very frustrated or my calling was bad

...I'm think from # I've shot..frustration is the answer
Keep practicing you'll get it

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