Hey guys, I have been chasing turkeys for about 10 years now with a friend of mine. We almost exclusively hunt together when chasing turkeys. We have both been very fortunate over the years and usually each harvest a bird per season. The problem is in all these years each of us has only harvested one longbeard. The areas we have hunted in the past had good turkey populations, some with no hunting pressure and others with heavy hunting pressure. We seem to have little trouble calling in jakes and even hens but the longbeards elude us. We blind hunt and run & gun. We use diaphrams, friction, and box calls. I use the diaphram and friction calls and my friend uses the box. I only use the box when trying to locate a distant bird later in the morning however my friend uses his box exclusively. My feeling is this call is to loud so early in the morning and even when he gets one to answer his call he continues to use it. When he uses the box I try to stay off of my calling, if I do call I use soft clucks, putts, and purrs. I don't blame his calling as the culprit as I'm sure we are both doing something wrong. Sometimes I think I over analyize things. Can anyone out there give me some input in what we may be doing wrong or what we should be doing.